<div dir="ltr">Hey Kate! Thanks for all this info, it's really helpful :)<div><br></div><div>We'd like to have more complex expressions being used from the debugger. Some of this would be code written in separate files. It will be difficult or at least very tedious to have all our code use "$", is there a way to void using "$"? Is there an option we could add to lldb to avoid using "$" and still have variables and data-structures globally accessible? I notice that within "repl" "$" it's not necessary to use any "$" variables, is there a way to elevate the logic "repl" uses into expr?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Kate Stone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:k8stone@apple.com" target="_blank">k8stone@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><span class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rex Fenley via lldb-dev <<a href="mailto:lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Maybe I have that incorrectly, this does seem to work when using lldb from Xcode's console. This doesn't work when typing `lldb` into the terminal and using it from there. I assumed the two were the same.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>The same underlying debugger is used in both cases.  There can be subtle reasons for differences in behavior in the different contexts, but I don’t see how they’d apply here.  Let’s get to a specific scenario and ensure that we can resolve that for you.</div><div><span class=""><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div>On a separate note, --top-level doesn't seem to work for swift (from Xcode console lldb). We need it to work with swift for the scripts we'll be writing.</div><div><p><span><b>(lldb) expr -l swift --top-level -- let i = 10</b></span></p><p><span><b>expr -l swift --top-level -- let a = i</b></span></p><p><span>error: <EXPR>:3:9: error: use of unresolved identifier 'i'</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>The --top-level option isn’t meaningful for Swift, so it’s completely ignored.  The less ambiguous nature of the language allows us to automatically determine what are top-level constructs and what’s intended to be evaluated in scope.  We introduced --top-level for Objective-C / C++ primarily to enable declaring functions and anything else that literally <i>cannot</i> be written in a local scope.</div><div><br></div><div>In your particular example the reason you can’t refer to “i” is completely unrelated.  Conceptually, every expression you evaluate is wrapped in its own scope.  So your two subsequent expressions act like this construct :</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div><font face="Menlo">do {</font></div></div><div><font face="Menlo">    let i = 10</font></div><div><font face="Menlo">}</font></div><div><font face="Menlo">do {</font></div><div><font face="Menlo">    let a = i</font></div><div><font face="Menlo">}</font></div></blockquote><br><div><div>As you can see, “i” is defined in this expression scope and then goes out of scope immediately after execution.  This is useful when you want to write a multi-line expression that introduces declarations for immediate use without having them cluttering up your namespace afterwards.  The convention used by LLDB for any declaration that you intend to use in later expressions is to prefix the name with a dollar sign.  So you can do the following:</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div><font face="Menlo">(lldb) expr -l swift -- let $i = 10</font></div></div><div><div><font face="Menlo">(lldb) expr -l swift -- let $a = i</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>… and both “$a” and “$i" will be available in subsequent expressions.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:LucidaGrande;word-wrap:break-word"><font color="#424242" style="font-family:'Lucida Grande';font-size:x-small">Kate Stone</font><span style="font-family:'Lucida Grande';font-size:x-small"> </span><font color="#009193" style="font-family:'Lucida Grande';font-size:x-small"><a href="mailto:k8stone@apple.com" target="_blank">k8stone@apple.com</a></font></div><div style="font-family:Times;word-wrap:break-word"><font face="Lucida Grande" size="1"><font color="#009193"></font> Xcode <font color="#424242">Low Level Tools</font></font></div><div><div class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