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Small note, you can control emails sent by builder.<br>
<br>
For example, I did not include my experimental builders in the email
notification.<br>
<br>
By the same token, you could add a custom notifier for any
experimental builder that you individually want to watch without
going to a web site.<br>
<br>
The remaining problem is that the experimental builder failures
appear on lab.llvm.org:8011.<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
InformativeMailNotifier(<br>
fromaddr = <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:llvm.buildmaster@lab.llvm.org">"llvm.buildmaster@lab.llvm.org"</a>,<br>
sendToInterestedUsers= False,<br>
extraRecipients =
[<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rfoos@codeaurora.org">"rfoos@codeaurora.org"</a>,<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:llvm.buildmaster@quicinc.com">"llvm.buildmaster@quicinc.com"</a>],<br>
subject="Build %(builder)s Failure",<br>
mode = "failing",<br>
b<b>uilders = ["llvm-hexagon-elf","clang-hexagon-elf"],</b><br>
addLogs=False,<br>
num_lines = 15),<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2015 04:38 AM, Tamas
Berghammer wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:05 PM,
Galina Kistanova <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gkistanova@gmail.com" target="_blank">gkistanova@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div><span class="">
<div>>> Will our rotations alias still get
failure emails like it does now?</div>
</span>
<div>...</div>
<span class="">
<div>> Galina should be able to answer this</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div>What is the "rotations alias"?</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>From the buildbot perspective it is an additional
e-mail address where it sends a notification for each
failed build (based on an InformativeMailNotifier
in buildbot/osuosl/master/config/status.py:125). It is a
special e-mail address what will forward the failure
notification to the right people inside the LLDB team at
Google based on some settings but it isn't effect the way
the buildbot have to handle it.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div><span class="">
<div>> could we disable IRC notification for
these buildbots as well?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div>I will disable IRC notifications for experimental
bots today, if everything will go well.</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
</div>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Thanks</div>
<span class=""><font color="#888888">
<div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Galina</div>
</font></span>
<div>
<div class="h5">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2015 at
10:44 AM, David Blaikie <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com"
target="_blank">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, May
12, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Vince Harron <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vince@nethacker.com"
target="_blank">vince@nethacker.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi David,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I agree that it needs to be
fixed. Thanks for communicating
the issue.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've submitted a change that
XFAILs timeout tests. This
should make <span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">lldb-x86_64-ubuntu-14.04-cmake</span> solid
(fingers crossed).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Will our rotations alias
still get failure emails like it
does now?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div><br>
Galina should be able to answer this -
I'm not sure on the exact setup, but
that seems like a reasonable/right
configuration. The main/only thing I
care about is not notifying random
contributors (or the IRC channel,
which is equivalent) on a bot that's
not pretty reliable (granted, my GDB
7.5 buildbot has some flaky tests in
it that come up once a week or so -
and I wouldn't mind being held to this
bar myself, I've meant/tried to
disable those at various points but
never quite pushed through)<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
- David<br>
</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#888888"><br>
</font></span></div>
<span><font color="#888888">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Vince</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</font></span></div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:27
PM, David Blaikie <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" target="_blank">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote"><span>On
Tue, May 12,
2015 at 4:15 PM,
Galina Kistanova
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gkistanova@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gkistanova@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>Hi Vince,<br>
<br>
</div>
Maybe
"experimental"
is not the
best word to
name the
group. Anyway,
the actual
meaning is a
group of
builders which
does not send
e-mail
notifications
to the blame
list on a
failure after
a green or
interrupted
build.<br>
These builders
are shown in
the UI as
usual, though,
on the
waterfall page
they are at
the right. The
IRC
notifications
are sent on
every builder
status change.<br>
The builders
of this group
builds on
demand only.<br>
I think this
is not a
desired
behavior in
this case. We
still want
these builders
to build on
regular
commits to the
dependent
projects, I
guess. This is
an easy
change. I'll
make it as
well.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div><br>
Thanks, that'd
be great - could
we disable IRC
notification for
these buildbots
as well?<br>
</div>
<span>
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<div>
<div>
<div>Originally,
the purpose of
this group is
just like that
- someone
introduce a
new builder,
work out all
possible
issues and
make it
reliably
green, before
it gets to a
pool of
regular
builders and
gets noisy.<br>
</div>
The major
issue with an
unreliable
builder is
people get
annoyed and
stop pay
attention to
the failures.
It would take
quite an
effort to get
the situation
back to
normal.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div>Indeed - the
greater risk is
people start
ignoring other,
valid buildbot
email from
reliable
builders because
it gets lost in
the noise of the
unreliable ones.
That's why I'd
be happy to
aggressively
mark as
experimental (or
any other
approach) any
buildbot that's
producing
particularly
unhelpful
notifications
(email or IRC)
or otherwise
clouding the
feedback these
tools should be
providing.<br>
<br>
If someone is
willing to put
up with an
unreliable
builder and
triage the
failures
manually - they
can always
forward the real
failures to the
mailing list,
cc'ing whoever's
appropriate,
etc. But it
shouldn't be
every
developer's job
to figure out
whether any bot
email is valid
or not.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
- David</font></span></div>
<div>
<div>
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<div><br>
</div>
Thanks<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></div>
<span><font
color="#888888">Galina<br>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</font></span>
<div
class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote"><span>On
Tue, May 12,
2015 at 2:35
PM, Vince
Harron <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vince@nethacker.com" target="_blank">vince@nethacker.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
</span>
<div>
<div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
all,
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Before
you move them,
can you
explain what
experimental
means?</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Linux
builder does
have some
flakey builds
and I'm
working on
that right
now.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm one
test away from
getting OSX
green. I
would like to
see how it
does.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We are
doing a
bringup on the
android
builder right
now, it makes
sense to move
that somewhere
else.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, it
would be very
much
appreciated to
include
lldb-dev when
discussing
lldb issues.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Vince</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, May 12,
2015 at 11:13
AM, Galina
Kistanova <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gkistanova@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gkistanova@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>>Perhaps
everything
should go in
experimental
first &
only moved out
once they've
got a track
record of
success.<br>
</span>Yes,
this is good
idea. I will
move them to
experimental.<br>
<br>
Thanks<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Galina<br>
</font></span></div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, May 12,
2015 at 9:45
AM, David
Blaikie <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" target="_blank">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>On Tue,
May 12, 2015
at 6:28 AM, Ed
Maste <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:emaste@freebsd.org" target="_blank">emaste@freebsd.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On
11 May 2015 at
22:52, Galina
Kistanova <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gkistanova@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gkistanova@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hello
everyone,<br>
><br>
> I'm not
sure I follow
the
discussion.<br>
><br>
> Which
builder are we
talking about?
Is it
lldb-x86_64-freebsd?<br>
<br>
</span>A few
different
things are
being
discussed in
this thread.<br>
lldb-x86_64-freebsd
is the
specific one
of interest to
me, but the<br>
lldb builders
are in general
unreliable.<br>
<span><br>
> There
were 3 failure
e-mail
notifications
related to
this
particular
builder<br>
> during
the last
month. The
last
notification
looks valid,
since the
build<br>
> went from
green to red<br>
> (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86_64-freebsd/builds/5589"
target="_blank">http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86_64-freebsd/builds/5589</a>
vs.<br>
> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86_64-freebsd/builds/5588"
target="_blank">http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86_64-freebsd/builds/5588</a>).<br>
<br>
</span>That
green-to-red
is almost
certainly
general
flakiness, not
directly<br>
related to the
changes in
build 5589.<br>
<br>
> ...<br>
<span>> Or
we are talking
about all the
builders in
the whole
"lldb"
category? If<br>
> so, let's
agree on how
it should
behave from
the
notification
perspective,<br>
> and I'll
configure it
to do so.<br>
><br>
> In
general, any
unreliable
builder should
be in the
"experimental"
category.<br>
> These are
not sending
notifications
at all.<br>
<br>
</span>It
seems the
unreliability
/ flakiness
applies to all
of the lldb<br>
builders,
other than the
Windows ones
which only
build-test.
Does it<br>
make sense to
apply the
experimental
category to
all of them
for now?<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
Perhaps
everything
should go in
experimental
first &
only moved out
once they've
got a track
record of
success.
(& I
wouldn't mind
bumping a lot
of existing
builders back
down to that
category)<br>
</div>
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