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Hey Eran, <br>
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Comments inline.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/05/2014 21:50, Eran Ifrah wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
for your build Deepak, it starts without any crashes.<br>
However, the implementation is lacking, and I suspect that
making it work with any existing IDE that uses GDB/MI will
take a lot of effort.<br>
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The implementation is certainly lacking, we stated that it's the
initial commit and it's only tested with Eclipse. With Eclipse it
works correctly. I should add at the moment only remote targets are
supported. The amount of effort to get an existing GDB/MI interface
up and running however is now drastically lower than previous!<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Few
comments:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">On
Windows, I use some extra normal commands that have no counter
part in the MI, such as "set new-console on" (which creates a
new CMD.EXE and redirects all the application's
std[in|err|out]), ofc, this does not work<br>
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Yeah, for those sorts of commands best bet is you add that yourself.
Eclipse certainly doesn't use it, and that's our initial target.<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:CAAvfv_C7_pfA9GY5Kvbab7VzoohKa98bbRD6O6FPoRQwtLYd2g@mail.gmail.com"
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<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
replies from lldb-mi, are a bit different from gdb, for
example, consider this interaction between codelite (the IDE)
and lldb-mi:<br>
<br>
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Using gdbinit
file: C:\Users\PC\AppData\Local\Temp\codelite_gdbinit.txt<br>
Current working dir: D:\src\TestArea\wxCrafterTester<br>
Launching gdb from : ./Debug<br>
Starting debugger :
C:\Users\PC\Desktop\MinSizeRel\lldb-mi.exe
--command="C:\Users\PC\AppData\Local\Temp\codelite_gdbinit.txt"
--interpreter=mi "./wxCrafterTester"<br>
DEBUG>>00000001-break-insert -f -t main<br>
DEBUG>>00000002-enable-pretty-printing<br>
Debug session started successfully!<br>
DEBUG>>00000003-exec-arguments <br>
DEBUG>>00000004-exec-run <br>
lldb-mi>>1^error,msg="Command 'break-insert'.
Breakpoint 'main' invalid"<br>
1^error,msg="Command 'break-insert'. Breakpoint 'main'
invalid"</span><br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Command:
00000001: -break-insert <br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">According
to the docs, it can accept function name (its sole purpose
here is to place a temporary breakpoint at 'main' (hence, the
"-t") ). It seems like lldb-mi does not expect a function name
but rather a location? (did not try that)<br>
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-t and breakpoints on functions are certainly supported at this
stage, the code is all there and we use it. Will have to look at
this one.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Also,
the reply from lldb-mi is different:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
codelite prepends a transaction ID (8 digits number with fixed
length) for each command it sends over to gdb, it is expecting
gdb/lldb-mi to reply with these exact 8 digits (including all
padding zeros)<br>
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this is not the case here (lldb-mi replied with '1' instead of
'00000001')<br>
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Ack. The standard I guess does say any arrangement of digits, we'll
get this one fixed :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">After
changing codelite's gdb settings (i.e. disabled the option to
temporarily break at main) I hit another obstacle: I can not
place a breakpoint:<br>
<br>
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">DEBUG>>00000005-break-insert
-f "\"D:/src/TestArea/wxCrafterTester/MainFrame.cpp:15\""</span><br>
...<br>
and lldb-mi replied with:<br>
<br>
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">lldb-mi>>MI:
Error: Command Args. Validation failed. Not all arguments or
options were recognized:
"\"D:/src/TestArea/wxCrafterTester/MainFrame.cpp:15\""<br>
MI: Error: Command Args. Validation failed. Not all
arguments or options were recognized:
"\"D:/src/TestArea/wxCrafterTester/MainFrame.cpp:15\""<br>
lldb-mi>>5^error,msg="Command 'break-insert'. Command
Args. Validation failed. Not all arguments or options were
recognized:
"\"D:/src/TestArea/wxCrafterTester/MainFrame.cpp:15\"""<br>
5^error,msg="Command 'break-insert'. Command Args.
Validation failed. Not all arguments or options were
recognized:
"\"D:/src/TestArea/wxCrafterTester/MainFrame.cpp:15\"""</span><br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">At
first I thought its because of the volume ("D:") part of the
file name, so I changed the settings to send file name without
full path, same error occured ...<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Also,
it seems that when lldb-mi hits the first error it simply
hangs ( I don't see my application being launched )<br>
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We'll see if we can repo this sort of thing and have a look at it.
We use it on windows too so the volume being part of the file name
shouldn't really matter.<br>
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<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Some
more observations:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Commands
that are not supported (and used by codelite IDE):<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">//
-exec-arguments<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span
style="font-family:courier new,monospace">DEBUG>>00000010-exec-arguments
1<br>
lldb-mi>>11^error,msg="Driver. Received command
'00000011-exec-arguments'. It was not handled. Command
'exec-arguments' not in Command Factory"<br>
<br>
</span></div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">//
-enable-pretty-printing<br>
</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span
style="font-family:courier new,monospace">DEBUG>>00000010-enable-pretty-printing<br>
lldb-mi>>10^done,supported="0"</span><br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">This
was all tested on Windows 7, 64bit.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Trying to debug an executable built with g++-4.8.1 32bit,
(MinGW, no MSYS)<br>
<br>
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Yup, lots of commands still to write. At the moment though you can
certainly use this frontend and it's usable on Eclipse, for remote
targets anyway. Breakpoints, single stepping, local variables, stack
traces are all there and supported. Obviously there will be issues
given we're only testing on Eclipse. <br>
<br>
As every 'standard' implementer knows, the only standard thing about
all the implementations is that they are guaranteed to all be used
in subtly different ways :)<br>
<br>
Thanks for taking the time to check it out, this feedback is
incredibly valuable. At the end of the day, we want to make sure the
frontend will work with as many different IDEs as possible.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Colin<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
for you work,<br>
Eran<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Deepak
Panickal <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deepak@codeplay.com" target="_blank">deepak@codeplay.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Eran,<br>
<br>
Here's the link to download the MinSizeRel build.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://db.tt/CdvFKVcN"
target="_blank">https://db.tt/CdvFKVcN</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Deepak
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<br>
<div>On 16/05/2014 21:01, Eran Ifrah wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 16, 2014 at
9:55 PM, Eran Ifrah <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eran.ifrah@gmail.com"
target="_blank">eran.ifrah@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:23 PM,
Deepak Panickal <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deepak@codeplay.com"
target="_blank">deepak@codeplay.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> Hi Eran,<br>
<br>
I tried it here with a Debug
build and a MinSizeRel build,
but no crashes.<br>
<br>
Did you try to launch it from an
IDE or simply ran it?<br>
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<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">
I tried it from the command line<br>
<br>
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<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">FYI:<br>
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<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">I
am using Windows 7 (64), Visual
Studio 2013 (express edition)<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Can
you upload your lldb-mi.exe /
liblldb.dll somewhere so I could
try it here and see if its a
problem with my build?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> Could you please
try a debug build?<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">
Will do<br>
<br>
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here is the backtrace from the crash (it
crashes on a va_copy() call... arg) :<br>
<br>
msvcr120d.dll!5ccefb53() Unknown<br>
[Frames below may be incorrect and/or
missing, no symbols loaded for
msvcr120d.dll] <br>
[External Code] <br>
>
lldb-mi.exe!CMIUtilString::FormatPriv(const
CMIUtilString & vrFormat, char *
vArgs) Line 114 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!CMIUtilString::Format(const
CMIUtilString & vrFormating, ...) Line
139 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!CMIDriverMgr::GetAppVersion()
Line 577 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!CMICmnLog::Initialize()
Line 83 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!MI::ModuleInit<CMICmnLog>(const
int vErrorResrcId, bool & vwrbOk,
CMIUtilString & vwrErrMsg) Line 50
C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!CMIDriverMgr::Initialize()
Line 82 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!DriverSystemInit() Line
199 C++<br>
lldb-mi.exe!main(int argc, const char
* * argv) Line 317 C++<br>
[External Code] <br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">And
for your convenience, here is the "Locals"
view during the crash:<br>
vrFormat "%s\n%s\n%s" const
CMIUtilString &<br>
vArgs 0x00bdf334 "ÌÌÌÌ| \x15" char *<br>
argsCpy 0x00bdf334 "ÌÌÌÌ| \x15" char
*<br>
nFinal 0 int<br>
pFormatted unique_ptr 37 '%'
std::unique_ptr<char
[0],std::default_delete<char [0]>
><br>
n 16 int<br>
strResult "" CMIUtilString<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Hope
it will give you a hint<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> <br>
We'll look into it more to see
if we can find something.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Deepak
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<div><br>
<br>
<div>On 16/05/2014 17:04,
Eran Ifrah wrote:<br>
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<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
Deepak,<br>
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
have just updated
and rebuilt the tree
on Windows<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Starting
lldb-mi.exe ->
instantly crashes<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
for comparison,
starting lldb.exe it
starts normally
without any crash<br>
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
built it using
VS2013, I selected
the 'MinSizeRel'
build configuration
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Unfortunately,
running it under VS,
gives a useless
backtrace (only
addresses)<br>
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
I could try and
build it with debug
info, but it just
takes too much time
:D<br>
<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Eran<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<br>
<br>
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<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, May 16, 2014 at
6:50 PM, <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jingham@apple.com" target="_blank">jingham@apple.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Excellent!
Again, thanks for
working on this.<br>
<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
Jim<br>
</font></span>
<div>
<div><br>
On May 16,
2014, at 4:15
AM, Deepak
Panickal <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:deepak@codeplay.com" target="_blank">deepak@codeplay.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Thanks
Jim, have just
committed it.
Yeah, it works
with the
GDB/MI
interface.<br>
><br>
> There's
no GPL code,
it's all
written from
scratch.<br>
> Not all
MI commands
have been
implemented
yet, however
it should be
enough to set
breakpoints,
view locals.<br>
> We're
working on
adding more
commands for
viewing/modifying
registers,
memory etc.<br>
><br>
> It'll be
great if more
people from
the community
can use and
test it with
other GUIs!<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Deepak<br>
><br>
><br>
> On
15/05/2014
18:57, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jingham@apple.com" target="_blank">jingham@apple.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>> First
off, thanks
for doing
this, that is
great! If
this also
works with the
gdb-mi mode,
you will make
our emacs
friends happy
as well.<br>
>><br>
>> If
this is just
an independent
tool that
doesn't touch
the core lldb
sources (and
doesn't use
anything
directly from
the gdb MI
implementation,
since we don't
want to mix
GPL'ed code in
with lldb), I
see no reason
not to just
check it in
now, and then
iterate on it
in situ. That
is much easier
than handing
around patch
files, and
since there's
no chance it
will interfere
with anybody
working on
parts of lldb
that existed
before the
patch, can't
do any harm.
I spoke to
GregC and he
agrees this is
a reasonable
course.<br>
>><br>
>>
Again, thanks
for working on
this.<br>
>><br>
>> Jim<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On
May 15, 2014,
at 10:17 AM,
Deepak
Panickal <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:deepak@codeplay.com" target="_blank">deepak@codeplay.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>>
Hi Abid,<br>
>>><br>
>>>
Thank you, I
have attached
the zipped
patch.<br>
>>>
You might have
to the change
the triple in
tools/lldb-mi/MICmnConfig.h
for your
target.<br>
>>><br>
>>>
Please let me
know if you
have any
comments/suggestions.<br>
>>><br>
>>>
Thanks,<br>
>>>
Deepak<br>
>>><br>
>>>
On 15/05/2014
17:10, Abid,
Hafiz wrote:<br>
>>>>
Hi Deepak,<br>
>>>>
I can help
review/test it
when you post
the patch.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>
Thanks,<br>
>>>>
Abid<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>>
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Message-----<br>
>>>>>
From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lldb-dev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu" target="_blank">lldb-dev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu</a>
[mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lldb-dev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu" target="_blank">lldb-dev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu</a>]<br>
>>>>>
On Behalf Of
Deepak
Panickal<br>
>>>>>
Sent: 15 May
2014 12:14<br>
>>>>>
To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lldb-dev@cs.uiuc.edu" target="_blank">lldb-dev@cs.uiuc.edu</a><br>
>>>>>
Subject:
[lldb-dev]
LLDB Machine
Interface
Frontend<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
Hi,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
We have an MI
(Machine
Interface)
frontend to
LLDB which
works out of
the<br>
>>>>>
box with
Eclipse, and
likely will
work with
other GUI's
based on the
GDB/MI<br>
>>>>>
interface.
It's been
tested on
Linux and
Windows.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
It's ready to
upstream and
has been
developed as
an independent
tool<br>
>>>>>
residing in
the LLDB tools
folder. It's
based on the
LLDB public
API without<br>
>>>>>
any changes to
LLDB
internals.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
The patch is
quite large as
there are many
new files.<br>
>>>>>
How should we
go about
upstreaming?
Should I
create a diff
review as<br>
>>>>>
usual?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
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Deepak<br>
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