<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6">Dear LLVM team,<br><br>I am new. Please forgive me for a bit, if I bump into any established protocol.<br><br>I was referred to this mailing list to infer about the direction of the C++20 Modules, as we are considering an evolution of our codebase to the feature.<br><br>First let me reiterate some appreciation for what your team is doing for the world of computer science with the outstanding and pioneering work on clang. We have successfully switched our codebase from MSVC to clang for the superior code generation and the most modern features of C++. We have on average, doubled our compilation speed, tripled our execution speed, and halved the binary size. We have converted to C++20 Concepts from old SFINAE hacks, use direct builtins for modern instructions, and continue to marvel at the excellence of SIMD vectorization. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6">Our work is focused on exploring algorithmic frontiers in film and pro audio production. Artistic quality, precision and execution speed are paramount. This type of algorithm research and development typically demands fast iteration of the implementation code, often a few formulaic pages of DSP, rapidly changing to meet the speed and quality needs of the production team. The interface to consuming that code changes much less often.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6">Our question is about the current encoding of the pcm files generated from the module cppm files. We envision accelerating and simplifying development by converging most h files and cpp files into single module files. Currently, clang can compile a cppm file to a pcm file, to be consumed by the module importing code and the code editor enhancement
clangd. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6"><br>The implementation code is inside the module, inplace (not to be confused with the inline keyword for function inlining). The cppm file can be independently compiled to an object file and normally linked to produce function calls from consumers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6">The current naive build systems can use the pcm file as a dependency, when the interface and layout of the classes change inside the module, to trigger efficient recompilations of the consuming code.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3d85c6">However, we have observed that the pcm file is growing in size as the inplace implementation code is growing in size. We envisioned the pcm would only extract the class interface and the memory layout, but that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps, it would take more LLVM effort to extract and isolate that from the AST tree.<br><br>This of course has the unfortunate side effect of triggering redundant rebuilds of large portions of the codebase, making the iteration times unacceptable versus older conventions. The older conventions of splitting .h and .cpp files involve repeating yourself, wasting developer focus on simultaneously editing and managing of 2 files at once, and often resorting to messy pimpl techniques that have to heap allocate a backend and manage 2 references throughout the formulas, etc. Considering these overheads, there are 100s and an ever growing number of small and large plugins (modular effects) that can benefit from convergence to modules as single and succinct files focusing on clean formulation.<br><br>Are there any future plans at LLVM, the pcm files may encode the interface only? Or are there any tools and functions you can recommend to extract the module interface to signal the build system more efficiently?<br><br>Thank you for your time.<br><br>Sincerely,<br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" color="#3d85c6">Büke<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(61,133,198)"> Beyond</span></font></div></div></div></div>