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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/21/20 6:50 PM, Richard Smith
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 17:00, Tom Stellard via
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Richard Smith via llvm-dev wrote:<br>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 11:04, Philip Reames via cfe-dev
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> +1 to James's take<br>
> <br>
> I'd prefer simplicity of implementation over
perfection here.<br>
> <br>
> If we end up with two different bug numbering systems,
that's a problem that we will be paying for for many years.
It's worth some investment now to avoid that problem. And it
doesn't seem like it really requires much investment.<br>
> <br>
> Here's another path we could take:<br>
> <br>
> 1) Fork the llvm repository to a private "bugs"
repository. Mirror the bugzilla issues there. Iterate until
we're happy, as per James's proposal.<br>
> 2) Sync the forked repository to the llvm repository,
delete the llvm repository, rename "bugs" to "llvm", and
make it public.<br>
> <br>
> Then we'll have the first N bugs in llvm-project/llvm
being *exactly* the bugzilla bugs, and we'll have excised
the existing github issues that we want to pretend never
existed anyway.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I think we've missed an important step in the planning
here: we've not agreed on a set of goals for the transition.
Here are mine:<br>
> <br>
> * We end up with one single issue tracking system
containing all issues, both old and new, both open and
closed.<br>
> * All links and references to existing bugs still
work.<br>
> * We have a single bug numbering system covering all
bugs, and old bugs retain their numbers.<br>
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Why are the bug numbers important?</blockquote>
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<div>These numbers appear all over our codebase. PR[0-9]
appears 3592 times in Clang testcases, plus 45 times in
Clang source code and 119 times more as the file names of
Clang testcases. If we add inconvenience to looking up all
of those, that makes maintenance harder each time someone
wants to look one of those up. (That's probably a ~weekly
occurrence for me.)</div>
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<p>For this use case, a simple script and bulk change to update
references in source repo means the numbering can change
arbitrarily. ~4k small mechanical changes is just not that much
to review for a one time update assuming you trust the number
remapping script and are just looking for overly aggressive regex
matches.<br>
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<p>(I don't have any quick fixes for your other mentioned cases.)<br>
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<div>Also, bug numbers appear in other bugs. I would assume
we're not going to be able to reliably figure out which
numbers appearing in a bug are bug numbers during the import
process, so those numbers will persist into the github
issues world.</div>
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<div>(In addition, I'm sure multiple groups have their own
tracking systems, web pages, documentation, etc. that
contain references to LLVM PR numbers. But maybe we
shouldn't worry too much about that.)</div>
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example use cases that require having<br>
a non-intersecting set of bug numbers for bugzilla bugs and
github issues?<br>
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<div>It makes conversing about bug numbers more difficult if
you need to clarify which system you're talking about. As a
minor example, we'd have to avoid saying "PR" for the new
system in order to avoid confusion, and get used to some new
terminology, and probably not use "bug 1234" to describe
either system, because that would be ambiguous. None of
these individual factors seems like a huge disruption, but
they all seem like inconvenience we should prefer to avoid
if possible.</div>
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-Tom<br>
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> <br>
> It sounds like we don't all agree that the last point
is important, but if we can achieve it without any
significant additional cost, why not do so?<br>
> <br>
> Philip<br>
> <br>
> On 4/20/20 4:08 PM, James Y Knight via llvm-dev
wrote:<br>
>> In a previous discussion, one other suggestion
had been to migrate all the bugzilla bugs to a separate
initially-private "bug archive" repository in github. This
has a few benefits:<br>
>> 1. If the migration is messed up, the repo can
be deleted, and the process run again, until we get a result
we like.<br>
>> 2. The numbering can be fully-controlled.<br>
>> Once the bugs are migrated to /some/ github
repository, individual issues can then be "moved" between
repositories, and github will redirect from the
movefrom-repository's bug to the target repository's bug.<br>
>><br>
>> We could also just have <a
href="http://llvm.org/PR#%23%23" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">llvm.org/PR###</a>
<<a href="http://llvm.org/PR#%23%23" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://llvm.org/PR#%23%23</a>>
be the url only for legacy bugzilla issue numbers -- and
have it use a file listing the mappings of bugzilla id ->
github id to generate the redirects. (GCC just did this
recently for svn revision number redirections, <a
href="https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2020-April/232030.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2020-April/232030.html</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> Then we could introduce a new naming scheme for
github issue shortlinks.<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 3:50 PM Richard Smith
via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>
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>><br>
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 12:31, Tom Stellard
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wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I wanted to continue discussing the
plan to migrate from Bugzilla to Github.<br>
>> It was suggested that I start a new
thread and give a summary of the proposal<br>
>> and what has changed since it was
originally proposed in October.<br>
>><br>
>> == Here is the original proposal:<br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2019-October/136162.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2019-October/136162.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> == What has changed:<br>
>><br>
>> * You will be able to subscribe to
notifications for a specific issue<br>
>> labels. We have a proof of concept
notification system using github actions<br>
>> that will be used for this.<br>
>><br>
>> * Emails will be sent to llvm-bugs when
issues are opened or closed.<br>
>><br>
>> * We have the initial list of labels: <a
href="https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/labels"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/labels</a><br>
>><br>
>> == Remaining issue:<br>
>><br>
>> * There is one remaining issue that I
don't feel we have consensus on,<br>
>> and that is what to do with bugs in the
existing bugzilla. Here are some options<br>
>> that we have discussed:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Switch to GitHub issues for new bugs
only. Bugs filed in bugzilla that are<br>
>> still active will be updated there
until they are closed. This means that over<br>
>> time the number of active bugs in
bugzilla will slowly decrease as bugs are closed<br>
>> out. Then at some point in the future,
all of the bugs from bugzilla will be archived<br>
>> into their own GitHub repository that
is separate from the llvm-project repo.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. Same as 1, but also create a
migration script that would allow anyone to<br>
>> manually migrate an active bug from
bugzilla to a GitHub issue in the llvm-project<br>
>> repo. The intention with this script
is that it would be used to migrate high-traffic<br>
>> or important bugs from bugzilla to
GitHub to help increase the visibility of the bug.<br>
>> This would not be used for mass
migration of all the bugs.<br>
>><br>
>> 3. Do a mass bug migration from
bugzilla to GitHub and enable GitHub issues at the same
time.<br>
>> Closed or inactive bugs would be
archived into their own GitHub repository, and active bugs<br>
>> would be migrated to the llvm-project
repo.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Can we preserve the existing bug numbers if
we migrate this way? There are lots of references to
"PRxxxxx" in checked in LLVM artifacts and elsewhere in the
world, as well as links to <a
href="http://llvm.org/PRxxxxx" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">llvm.org/PRxxxxx</a>
<<a href="http://llvm.org/PRxxxxx" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://llvm.org/PRxxxxx</a>>,
and if we can preserve all the issue numbers this would ease
the transition pain substantially.<br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> The key difference between proposal 1,2
and 3, is when bugs will be archived from bugzilla<br>
>> to GitHub. Delaying the archiving of
bugs (proposals 1 and 2) means that we can migrate<br>
>> to GitHub issues sooner (within 1-2
weeks), whereas trying to archive bugs during the<br>
>> transition (proposal 3) will delay the
transition for a while (likely several months)<br>
>> while we evaluate the various solutions
for moving bugs from bugzilla to GitHub.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The original proposal was to do 1 or 2,
however there were some concerns raised on the list<br>
>> that having 2 different places to
search for bugs for some period of time would<br>
>> be very inconvenient. So, I would like
to restart this discussion and hopefully we can<br>
>> come to some kind of conclusion about
the best way forward.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Tom<br>
>><br>
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