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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/02/2017 02:33 AM, C Bergström via
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<div class="m_2984263304381095815moz-cite-prefix">Joining
in a bit late, but given the conversation which
happened down thread I want to make a point of saying
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Tanya, thank you for all of the work you put into LLVM
dev each year. I have greatly enjoyed the conference
year after year and get a lot out of attending. It is
currently the only tech conference which I attend as a
routine matter of course. For an event of it's size,
the conference usually goes exceedingly smoothly. <br>
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I want to explicitly call out the work which has gone
in to keeping the conference accessible to all. A
$300 price is well within budget for most of
attendees, and the foundation has made sure to offer
reduced student and need based rates. The focus on
doing that later bit says good things about the
organization and the folks involved in running it. I
know for that for me, the benefits I receive by
attending far outweigh the cost. <br>
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It is unfortunate that attendance has to be capped.
It seems like demand has increased a lot the last
couple of years. However, I do want to call out the
efforts which have gone into making most of the
content of the technical tracks available to a much
wider audience. All of the effort to post recording
of talks is subsidized by the local attendees and the
organizers have ensured the content is available not
too long after the conference. That is itself a huge
investment in making the event accessible to those who
can't attend in person. <br>
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Tanya, one thing which might help prevent concerns
like those raised would be to have an open discussion
of where the funds are going. Is there a publicly
available budget document for last years conference
you can point to?<br>
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<div>I say this with a soft tone..<br>
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<div>I think it's very anti-open source to have foundations
behind projects them with no or little transparency making
decisions which seem more corporate focused. (It isn't to
say it's wrong or not the right approach, but there's some
philosophical "feelings" tied to it)<br>
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Can you elaborate on why the decisions seem "more corporate
focused"? It is not clear to me what you mean by that. As a member
of the board, it certainly doesn't feel "corporate focused" to me.<br>
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<div>transparency isn't only about where the money is
spent.. It's about how decisions are made, how the secret
board conducts things.. the meeting minutes. etc.. There's
a time and place for discretion, but everything secret by
default doesn't seem like the Right Way (tm)...<br>
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The meeting minutes are all publicly available:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://llvm.org/foundation/documents/">http://llvm.org/foundation/documents/</a><br>
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-Hal<br>
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