<div dir="ltr">I think there is no one-size-fits-all conference format. It's a fact attendees have different backgrounds or interests (academic, industry, hobby, ...) and different philosophees as well.<div><br></div><div>Having different LLVM conferences addressing different tradeoffs is a richness. They are all located at different positions in a wide spectrum. I enjoy the US conference, the EuroLLVM and FOSDEM, but each one for different reasons. </div><div><br></div><div>The price charged is reasonnable compared to a number of other conferences in our fields (what's the fee for cppcon or cgo ?), and to bounce on David's comment, I can remember some FOSDEM editions where we had to queue under the rain to get some bad food and have no seat available in the talk room. I however consider myself lucky because some people could not even enter the room ! And it also happened that video recording did not work (in 2016 for the LLVM dev room for example)... This never happened at a US or Euro LLVM.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">> It's worth observing that EuroLLVM's distinctly worst recent attendance was at Barcelona, using a commercial space and co-located with CGO rather than standalone at a university.</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>As a EuroLLVM organizer, I believe the poor attendance in Barcelona was due to a number of factors others than those you name : there was a conflict with a game developers' conference and we were lacking a strong local community --- unlike all the other editions. Hosting the conference at a university (in Barcelona) would not have changed anything regarding the attendance. Colocating with CGO was an experiment worth trying though in my opinion.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--</div><div>Arnaud</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Robinson, Paul via cfe-dev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">How exactly is the developer meeting “commercialization” of an open source project? <u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-3343834904454991286__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Not the developer meeting per se, but charging $300 a head for it. With attendance of 500 you're pushing $150k revenue, even with
some subsidized attendees. (I understand that the expense of SJCC makes something like this necessary, but that's a choice you're making regarding venue, and the decision-making behind it is pretty opaque.)<u></u><u></u></span></a></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">To hold it at a university we would most likely need to have it during a break or on a weekend as most of their year round event spaces are not big enough. I think there is a false assumption that this is an idea
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">That sounds a bit snippy…. It would be more helpful to the discussion if you described what *was* explored and why it was rejected. It's worth observing that
EuroLLVM's distinctly worst recent attendance was at Barcelona, using a commercial space and co-located with CGO rather than standalone at a university.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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