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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>From the “Subject” and earlier messages in this thread, it would appear that the proposed default Standard is C++11; but the words in this message and a few other messages seem to suggest that the proposed default Standard is C++14.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m just curious about the proposed default, is it to be C++11 or C++14? I don’t have any argument against changing the default to either, but would like to know what is really being proposed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> MartinO<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#943634;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> cfe-dev [mailto:cfe-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Smith via cfe-dev<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2017 18:12<br><b>To:</b> Robinson, Paul <paul.robinson@sony.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Clang Dev <cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cfe-dev] Setting default dialect to C++11<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 18 May 2017 11:18 pm, "Robinson, Paul" <<a href="mailto:paul.robinson@sony.com">paul.robinson@sony.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Not to forget that Charles Li did a pile of work over the past year or so to tidy up a lot of the tests. Given that the PS4 target already defaults to C++11, I should hope there would be little left to do.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Right, and indeed we have buildbots that test that a C++11 default works. So the remaining cleanups would be for C++14-specific issues, which should be minimal in comparison to the great work Charles did.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>--paulr</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="m_979466430111428752__MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></a><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> cfe-dev [mailto:<a href="mailto:cfe-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">cfe-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Smith via cfe-dev<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim Northover<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cfe-dev] Setting default dialect to C++11<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On 18 May 2017 at 19:38, Tim Northover <<a href="mailto:t.p.northover@gmail.com" target="_blank">t.p.northover@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On 18 May 2017 at 18:56, Richard Smith <<a href="mailto:richard@metafoo.co.uk" target="_blank">richard@metafoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>> Agreed. I think there's sufficient (although not unanimous) agreement that<br>> we should increase our default language standard; what we need is for<br>> someone to work through the immediate fallout from doing so (particularly in<br>> the test suite).<br><br>I'll see what I can do tomorrow. Hopefully I can at least get some<br>numbers here by the end of the day. Possibly patches; what's our<br>preferred solution to failures: fix the code (within reason), or<br>-std=c++98?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>If the difference is interesting, test it in both modes. If the test is C++98-specific or has uninteresting diagnostic differences, -std=c++98.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>