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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/22/2016 15:31, C Bergström wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">This is going down a rabbit hole pretty far off topic, but the most
sincere answer I can give
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Linux, OSX and Windows
I'm a pretty strong Fortran advocate and even I wouldn't have any
argument about trying to keep Fortran support in the FBSD base system.
Why???!
Does FBSD have optimized math libraries?
GPGPU support?
IB drivers support?
Is anyone shipping HPC solutions for FreeBSD
Is anyone actually testing the codes..
(I won't even go into the kernel side of things..)
In general I don't even know if typical common HPC codes will build on
FBSD... I have a strong doubt anyone tests it.
Time and energy is probably better spent focusing on improving things
your community actually needs.</pre>
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<p>I disagree.</p>
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<p>You seem to focus on the business use of the OS, and ignore some
other uses. Do you know about Jupyter notebook software
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jupyter.org">http://jupyter.org</a>)? It allows to create the interactive math-
and physics-based books that allow the reader to explore and
experiment with formulas and computations right inside the book? A
lot of Jupyter uses fortran-based libraries in the background. And
Jupiter is a pretty cool thing. There is also the symbolic
computer algebra <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cadabra.science">http://cadabra.science</a>) that also uses fortran in the background.
And many other packages use fortran too.</p>
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<p>FreeBSD has a lot of advantages compared to Linux, OSX and
Windows. For example, on FreeBSD you can have a 100% open source
system, and all Linux distros always mix in some random third
party-built binaries. This is a security risk. FreeBSD doesn't
just grab the latest versions of packages from github like linux
distros do. This is another security risk. You can't just blow
this off, these are very significant advantages. And how can you
make a case for the business use of Windows or OSX on a
computation farm? Why add the licensing costs? It just doesn't
make sense to me.<br>
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<p>Following your logic, nobody should do any new things because
there is some gigantic industry already doing things some other
way. Why even develop clang if there is gcc that already compiles
everything fine?<br>
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<p>Yuri<br>
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