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Hello Manuel,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/11/15 11:59 AM, Manuel Klimek
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:59 PM Vladimir
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Keith,<br>
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I'm from Oracle (previously from Sun Microsystems) and use
NetBeans C++ IDE for<br>
developing Clang based tools.<br>
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<div>Oh, this is awesome :)</div>
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I've demoed this to Argyrios Kyrtzidis ~year ago and he was
impressed by it's parsing speed :-)<br>
NB needed just 1 minute to parse whole LLVM+Clang 3.4 codebase on my
laptop.<br>
Also I was complaining that migrating to i.e. Clang's preprocessor
makes us 2x slower (which is still the case for upcoming NB 8.1, but
we trying to restore our speed)<br>
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Till 8.0 version Netbeans had own parser (as Eclipse).
Starting from upcoming<br>
8.1 NB is trying to use some clang components in
experimental mode.<br>
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<div>Will this by any chance use the compilation database
integration?</div>
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NetBeans for a long time has own "build interceptor". It helps to
put code bases with even really complex build systems into IDE.<br>
When developer uses Project with Existing Sources wizard and specify
commands which he proceed in cmd shell, then IDE executes them and
interpose compiler invocations to extract cwd and all flags passed
to compiler.<br>
Then all is persisted in project properties, so user gain "Compile
File" for free, because IDE for each file knows how it was compiled.<br>
For CMake based codebases json database is produced and used to
extract flags.<br>
Am I answering your question? Or do you mean smth different?<br>
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Vladimir.<br>
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Vladimir.<br>
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On 09/10/15 03:17 AM, Keith Smith via cfe-dev wrote:<br>
> Mats, Renalto - Thanks for the information<br>
><br>
> I beg to differ that Eclipse CDT hasn't caught on. The
originator of<br>
> Eclipse CDT, QNX, and the maintainers, use Eclipse CDT
as their IDE<br>
> for their OS. QNX is in many high end car nav systems
today.<br>
><br>
> Eclipse CDT is the basis for many embedded tool chains
used by<br>
> firmware engineers, both in Linux and Windows.<br>
><br>
> Eclipse CDT may not have caught on as a host OS, host
app development<br>
> IDE, but it is used extensively.<br>
><br>
> I have used it for over ten years now. It has had its
limitations,<br>
> like no 'headless' builds, but that has been corrected.<br>
><br>
> Anyway thanks for the info. I was afraid that emacs and
vi(m) would be<br>
> part of the response. :( Don't use either at present.<br>
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> Keith Smith<br>
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> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, mats petersson <<a
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>> On 9 September 2015 at 15:03, Renato Golin <<a
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>>> On 9 September 2015 at 14:29, mats petersson
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mats@planetcatfish.com" target="_blank">mats@planetcatfish.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Technically, I'm not an LLVM or Clang
developer [by which I mean, I'm<br>
>>>> not<br>
>>>> contributing code to LLVM or Clang,
although I do have a patch for clang<br>
>>>> that may make it in at some point], but I
do use Emacs with cscope.<br>
>>> Honest question: how does cscope copes with
C++11 constructs? I<br>
>>> finally gave up emacs when cscope was the only
thing I could use and<br>
>>> it wasn't enough. Maybe I missed something?<br>
>><br>
>> I have not tried on big projects, but I use cscope
on C++ in my hobby<br>
>> project compiler, which uses limited C++11
features, and it's not failing in<br>
>> any obvious way for this use-case. But llvm is "out
of tree", and I<br>
>> typically use google and the online doxygen pages
for LLVM searches.<br>
>><br>
>> My main use is in my day-job, which is nearly all
C, so C++11 is not a big<br>
>> issue - but the build we use has all of clang and
llvm in the sources, and<br>
>> cscope is not failing in any obvious way, and I can
search for "getType" and<br>
>> it finds a load of them. But I'm sure there may be
more subtle things that I<br>
>> don't notice because when I use cscope in this
project, I'm typically<br>
>> searching for C symbols, not C++ things.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> I'm not trying to start a war with Renato
about "vi(m) vs (x)emacs" -<br>
>>>> it's<br>
>>>> pointless,<br>
>>> That was a joke. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry, my "sarcasticly pointing out the
pointlessness of a editor flame-war"<br>
>> obviously didn't have the (right) sarcasm font...
;)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> it's just one of those choices one makes at
some point in life -<br>
>>>> once you know enough to do things with ease
in one, you end up not<br>
>>>> liking<br>
>>>> the other.<br>
>>> Yup. Especially as you get older... :)<br>
>><br>
>> I've been old quite some time now... ;)<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Mats<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> I'm sufficiently damaged that I type ESC+w
to copy text in<br>
>>>> the browser - which of course doesn't
work... :(<br>
>>> I type :wq and "i" everywhere, too. :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> cheers,<br>
>>> --renato<br>
>><br>
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