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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02.12.2014 15:43, Marshall Clow
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          <div class="">On Dec 1, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Arnaud A. de
            Grandmaison <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:arnaud.degrandmaison@arm.com" class="">arnaud.degrandmaison@arm.com</a>>
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                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We (ARM)
                intend to contribute to libc++ and libc++abi.<o:p
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                  class=""> </o:p></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">However, in
                order to do that, we would first need to add a
                ‘NOTICE.TXT’ file at the root of each of these projects
                which would contain:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
                  class=""> </o:p></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">===================<o:p
                  class=""></o:p></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Patent
                  agreement notice to LLVM users in accordance with
                  Paragraph 2 of LLVM<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Developer
                  Policy, Patents subsection:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> </span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Presently,
                  ARM is unaware of any patents that would read on its
                  LLVM<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">contributions.
                  Nonetheless, to avoid doubt with respect to patent
                  rights,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">ARM
                  hereby grants recipients of the software distributed
                  by LLVM a perpetual,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">worldwide,
                  non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
                  patent license<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">to make,
                  have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and
                  otherwise transfer<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">software
                  distributed by LLVM, where such license applies only
                  to those patent<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">claims
                  licensable by ARM that are necessarily infringed by
                  ARM's contributions.</span></div>
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    "necessarily infringed"? Does that mean that if ARM contributes code
    that unnecessarily uses ARM-owned patents, people don't get the
    implicit license and are liable?<o:p class=""> <br>
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                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This does
                not change any licensing terms; it essentially helps
                limit any patent claims on ARM</div>
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    Isn't the point to limit patent claims *by* ARM on users of LLVM? I
    don't see how this license would limit claims *on* ARM, nor why the
    project would care about that. Unless the lawyers have managed to
    corrupt the meaning of "on" in this case.<br>
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