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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">James, Thanks. I have been trading email with Tom regarding updates to the Clover code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have been trying to learn more about the ELF format and just this morning came across some documentation regarding the ELF format that AMD uses with their
 GCN/OpenCL compiler environment (which appears to use a custom LLVM implementation.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From what I read, it sounds like AMD chose to create a nested ELF format, which contains both the LLVM IR and the target specific binaries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From
<a href="http://openwall.info/wiki/john/development/GCN-ISA">http://openwall.info/wiki/john/development/GCN-ISA</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The generated ELF contains the following sections:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.shstrtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.strtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.symtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.llvmir – LLVM IR?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.comment – unrecognized, binary data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.rodata – contains OpenCL information, flags, SDK version, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.text – contains an inner ELF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The .text section contains another ELF file. This is where the microcode (GCN bytecode) is actually stored. These are the sections of the inner ELF:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.shstrtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.text – contains the microcode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.data – this was completely empty in a sample binary (we should check out more binaries)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.symtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">.strtab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It sounds like the r600 backend for LLVM may need to be updated to either do something similar, or provide additional information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It would seem I still have a lot to learn/understand about this environment. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mankeyrabbit@gmail.com [mailto:mankeyrabbit@gmail.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Molloy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dorrington, Albert; Tom Stellard<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [cfe-dev] OpenCL compile object file symbol tables<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Al,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So this is something to do with the r600 backend and how it exports to ELF. I've reproduced your commands and see an ELF file with all anonymous symbols, as you said. I suggest that this is a question for the r600 maintainer, Tom Stellard
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 January 2014 12:40, Dorrington, Albert <<a href="mailto:albert.dorrington@lmco.com" target="_blank">albert.dorrington@lmco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi James,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> Thanks for your response and explanation. It sounds as if this may be LLVM, instead of Clang.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> I have a very simple OpenCL Kernel:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">__kernel void vecAdd(__global float* a) {</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am using the Clang/LLVM tools to reproduce the GPU specific binary being generated by Mesa Clover
 with the following commands:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">clang –O0 –emit-llvm –include /usr/local/include/clc.clc.h –I /usr/local/include –Dcl_clang_storage_class_specifies
 –target r600 –mcpu=turks –c <a href="http://kernel.cl" target="_blank">kernel.cl</a> –o kernel.bc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">opt –O2 –internalize-public-api-list=vecAdd –internalize –inline –inline-threshold=1000000000 kernel-linked.bc
 –o kernel-linked-opt.bc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Currently the clCreateProgramWithBinary() accepts the LLVM IR, not the ELF binary objects. I am looking
 to change that, for an embedded environment where the kernels would be pre-compiled using the LLVM/Clang tools.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The problem that I see is that the kernel.o ELF file does not appear to list the function names in
 the symbol table. So, I’m not seeing how I could implement the clCreateKernel() call to lookup the function within the ELF object. Or for that matter, if the ELF contained more than one kernel function, how I would retrieve the names within a clCreateKernelsInProgram()
 call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It seems that, using the build steps I described above, that the information I am looking for is
 lost with the llc command.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:mankeyrabbit@gmail.com" target="_blank">mankeyrabbit@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mankeyrabbit@gmail.com" target="_blank">mankeyrabbit@gmail.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Molloy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dorrington, Albert<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu" target="_blank">cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> EXTERNAL: Re: [cfe-dev] OpenCL compile object file symbol tables</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Albert,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Clang is not in and of itself an OpenCL compiler. It has a frontend for OpenCL-C, and can produce LLVM-IR from that (which can then be pushed through LLVM to produce some machine
 code). But those generated functions would be useless.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Clang is often used as *part of* a CL compiler - for example in POCL (<a href="http://pocl.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://pocl.sourceforge.net/</a>). The IR generated
 from Clang for CL-C code doesn't contain any details of how it is going to be executed. For example, is it going on a GPU or a CPU? In the latter case, loops will need to be inserted and calls to get_local_id() will need to reference the loop induction variables.
 There'll need to be some way inserted of being able to pass the group ID and other payload-global data too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Have you looked at POCL as an example of using Clang in a CL stack?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">James<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 20 January 2014 20:15, Dorrington, Albert <<a href="mailto:albert.dorrington@lmco.com" target="_blank">albert.dorrington@lmco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When I compile an OpenCL kernel to a binary file, using llvm/clang, I don’t see the kernel functions defined within the symbol table.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is this by design?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Without the function names in the symbol table, I’m not sure how I would look up a function within a pre-compiled object file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For instance, after loading a pre-compiled binary with clCreateProgramWithBinary() and then validating that the kernel function contained therein is the expected kernel.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Al Dorrington</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Software Engineer Sr</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Lockheed Martin, Mission Systems and Training</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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