[cfe-dev] Modules TS Work

Mon Oct 8 01:32:56 PDT 2018

And the current documentation about „Modules” doesn't say a thing about Modules-TS. Or I'm going blind…

My implementation so far is coming along nicely, I believe I’ll have it done in the upcoming week or so. Currently had to travel midway of writing a command which is not fun.

; W.

From: Matt Asplund via cfe-dev
Sent: 2018. október 8., hétfő 7:25
To: David Blaikie
Cc: Boris Kolpackov; Richard Smith; cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org
Subject: Re: [cfe-dev] Modules TS Work

Sorry to keep responding to myself, FYI the documentation for precompiled header file format is another great example of how it is hard to keep track of when modules refers to clang modules or the modules ts...

-Matt

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:23 PM Matt Asplund <mwasplund at gmail.com> wrote:
I also feel that the precompiled header file format as it is today is not the best fit for the module-ts interface definition. Would it not be more straightforward to have the compilation of an interface module generate a simplified form of this file that only contains the types and declarations that were exported along with an object file? It feels cumbersome at best to generate this entire file and then turn around and spit out the object file in a second call. 

On a side note, would anyone be opposed to lifting the requirement that a interface module translation unit using the cppm extension? The spec simply says a translation unit will be treated as a module unit if it contains a module declaration and clang seems to already allow this for implementation modules. 

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 6:19 PM Matt Asplund <mwasplund at gmail.com> wrote:
I have not had a chance to pull down and build the branch of gcc that has the modules-ts implementation yet. From reading the spec I did not think that macro definitions within a single translation unit would be affected by it being a module unit at all, much less a previously defined macro in the module interface unit. I was testing some with MSVC (until I hit a not implemented error) and they seem to allow this scenario.

-Matt

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:55 PM David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 5:46 PM Matt Asplund via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
I have been finding a few bugs in the modules-ts implementation and wanted to know if this is still being actively work on

Certainly being actively worked on - mostly/entirely by Richard Smith (cc'd) & I think he's prioritizing some of the nastier edge cases as they come up in the standardization process, so "practical" bugs (once where the desired behavior is clear enough & it isn't likely to significantly impact the design/implementation in a significant way) might be a bit lower priority.

or if I should be sending out my own patches.

Generally welcome, I should think! :)

I am also finding it hard to track what work is being done with clang modules and what work pertains to ModulesTS (Most notably there is only one bucket for bug reporting under modules). 

Fair - though they're pretty related - not sure it's worth having a separate bucket. But not a big deal either way.

The issue I am stuck on right now is this:
Bug 39206 - [Modules TS] Macro defined in module interface cannot be set in implementation 

Thanks for filing! :) (what does GCC do, I wonder? Not sure if the support over there is near enough to support things)

-Matt

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 4:32 PM André Jansen Medeiros Villar via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
CC Boris Kolpackov who has the only implamentation of Modules on a build system that i know of.

Em qui, 4 de out de 2018 às 15:04, David Blaikie via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> escreveu:

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 2:32 AM Whisperity via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
I am just trying to improve CMake a bit to better explain directives
for codes that use and depend on modules, instead of using nasty
shadow targets and hacks. We also need to improve CMake so it knows
dependencies: I ran into the issue that once I build the module PCM
there is no check (neither from CMake's, nor Clang's side) whether the
source file for that module was changed. Sometimes it keeps the PCM
implementation ignoring the original one, sometimes just runs Clang
into a nasty stack trace.

I'm super interested in CMake support for modules (both Clang's back-compat modules (with modulemaps) and C++ standard modules) - I'll be talking at the developer meeting about some of the issues around Modules TS build system impact (following on from the talk I gave last year on modular code generation) & honestly would love to have a CMake prototype/demo (for clang back-compat modules and/or modules TS modules), with the intent to get something usable for self-hosting one form of explicit modules or another (modular code generation, etc) with the LLVM build, but not sure I really have the CMake skills to pull that off in time.

- Dave

; Whisperity.
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> Hello,
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> I am curious if there is any active work being done on the Modules TS implementation. I would like to help fill in the gaps that I am finding while playing around with it and wanted to make sure I wasn’t duplicating work.
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