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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/16/2017 08:11 PM, Eric
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          <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 5:45 PM Hal Finkel <<a
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Thu, Mar 16,
                      2017 at 5:37 PM Hal Finkel via Phabricator <<a
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                      > Different suggestion:<br class="gmail_msg">
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                      > Remove the faltivec option. Even gcc doesn't
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                      What are you suggesting? Always having the
                      language extensions on? Or explicitly tying the
                      language extensions to the underlying target
                      feature?<br class="gmail_msg">
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                    <div class="gmail_msg">I was thinking the latter.</div>
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          <div>That would be my guess given the option isn't listed
            anymore, but what it does is this:</div>
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            <div>echristo@dzur ~/s/gcc-git> grep -r faltivec *</div>
            <div>gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/powerpc/stabs-attrib-vect-darwin.c:/*
              { dg-options "-gstabs+ -fno-eliminate-unused-debug-types
              -faltivec" } */</div>
            <div>gcc/testsuite/ChangeLog-1993-2007:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>*
              g++.dg/ext/altivec-8.C: Use '-maltivec' instead of
              '-faltivec';</div>
            <div>gcc/config/rs6000/darwin.h:   the kernel or some such. 
              The "-faltivec" option should have been</div>
            <div>gcc/config/rs6000/darwin.h:  %{faltivec:-maltivec
              -include altivec.h} %{fno-altivec:-mno-altivec} \</div>
            <div>gcc/config/rs6000/darwin.h:  %<faltivec
              %<fno-altivec " \</div>
            <div>gcc/config/rs6000/darwin.opt:faltivec</div>
            <div>gcc/ChangeLog-2003:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>-maltivec
              is specified, not the non-existent -faltivec.</div>
            <div>gcc/ChangeLog-2010:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>*
              config/rs6000/darwin.h (CC1_SPEC): Handle -faltivec and
              -fno-altivec.</div>
            <div>gcc/ChangeLog-2010:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>*
              config/rs6000/darwin.opt (Waltivec-long-deprecated,
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            <div>and only on darwin. I don't see anything that treats
              the faltivec alias as anything language specific anywhere.
              It basically just says "pass the include and turn on
              maltivec".<br>
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          <div>At this point I'm pretty sure that -faltivec can just be
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    It is certainly fair to say that having the ability to use
    -fno-altivec was much more important when -faltivec included
    altivec.h (which injected names like vec_add into the global
    namespace). I'm fine with enabling the vector syntax extensions when
    targeting altivec is enabled (they're extensions to extensions
    anyway).<br>
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          <div>-eric</div>
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                      > -eric<br class="gmail_msg">
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              <pre class="m_-6314143797133193542moz-signature gmail_msg" cols="72">-- 
Hal Finkel
Lead, Compiler Technology and Programming Languages
Leadership Computing Facility
Argonne National Laboratory</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Hal Finkel
Lead, Compiler Technology and Programming Languages
Leadership Computing Facility
Argonne National Laboratory</pre>
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