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    I think it's better to pass amount in bytes here, as specified by
    user (alignas takes bytes, not bits).<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/13/2016 09:00 PM, Robinson, Paul
      wrote:<br>
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            hadn't thought Clang wanted to be *quite* so knowledgeable
            about targets, and similarly not so tightly tied to
            byte-addressable targets.  But if both of those things are
            actually okay, then it's fine to set the alignment value
            here to what would be passed through to DWARF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--paulr<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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                  David Blaikie [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com">mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com</a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 12, 2016 6:11 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Robinson, Paul;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:reviews+D24426+public+6ee6274d38fdf0d6@reviews.llvm.org">reviews+D24426+public+6ee6274d38fdf0d6@reviews.llvm.org</a>;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vleschuk@accesssoftek.com">vleschuk@accesssoftek.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:echristo@gmail.com">echristo@gmail.com</a>;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aprantl@apple.com">aprantl@apple.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mehdi.amini@apple.com">mehdi.amini@apple.com</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> cfe-commits (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org">cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org</a>)<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [PATCH] D24426: DebugInfo: Pass
                  non-zero alignment to DIBuilder only if aligment was
                  forced<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 6:01 PM
                  Robinson, Paul <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:paul.robinson@sony.com">paul.robinson@sony.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
                            text in the committee draft is different
                            (e.g., the exhortation about non-default
                            alignment is gone), with an example to the
                            effect that a value of 8 means the entity's
                            address is a multiple of 8 (not 2^8).  So,
                            alignment is conceived in terms of address
                            bits, whatever those represent (not always
                            bytes). </span></span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Not sure I quite follow. OK, so in
                  an octet addressable world (which LLVM is - there have
                  been some attempts to support non-octet addressing,
                  but I don't think any have been near to successful)
                  then DW_AT_alignment is byte alignment (1 means there
                  are no zero bits in the address, 2 means there's 1
                  trailing zero bit in the address, etc).<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
                          Clang is being infested with more target
                          knowledge, okay, but that means tolerating the
                          weirder targets in these cases.  Dividing by
                          CHAR_BITS makes an assumption that isn't
                          necessarily correct.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Clang has the knowledge already -
                  it knows the alignment of the types its allocating,
                  etc. So I'm not sure what infestation you're referring
                  to.<br>
                  <br>
                  I've sort of lost track of what we're discussing here.<br>
                  <br>
                  Essentially what I'm suggesting is that Clang should
                  put whatever number is going to go in the DWARF, into
                  the metadata. I don't believe the LLVM backends have
                  greater knowledge than the frontend does in this
                  domain - have I missed something there, are there
                  examples where that could/would be true?<br>
                  <br>
                  - David<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">P.S.
                          The committee is hoping to get a draft out for
                          public comment Real Soon Now.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to it :) <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                cfe-commits [mailto:<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:cfe-commits-bounces@lists.llvm.org"
                                  target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cfe-commits-bounces@lists.llvm.org">cfe-commits-bounces@lists.llvm.org</a></a>]
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Blaikie via
                                cfe-commits</span></span><span
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                              <span class="gmailmsg"><b>Sent:</b>
                                Monday, September 12, 2016 5:12 PM</span><br>
                              <span class="gmailmsg"><b>To:</b> <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:reviews%2BD24426%2Bpublic%2B6ee6274d38fdf0d6@reviews.llvm.org"
                                  target="_blank">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:reviews+D24426+public+6ee6274d38fdf0d6@reviews.llvm.org">reviews+D24426+public+6ee6274d38fdf0d6@reviews.llvm.org</a></a>; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:vleschuk@accesssoftek.com"
                                  target="_blank">
                                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vleschuk@accesssoftek.com">vleschuk@accesssoftek.com</a></a>; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:echristo@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">
                                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:echristo@gmail.com">echristo@gmail.com</a></a>; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:aprantl@apple.com"
                                  target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aprantl@apple.com">aprantl@apple.com</a></a>;
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:mehdi.amini@apple.com"
                                  target="_blank">mehdi.amini@apple.com</a></span><br>
                              <span class="gmailmsg"><b>Cc:</b> <a
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                                  target="_blank">
                                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org">cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org</a></a></span><br>
                              <span class="gmailmsg"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                [PATCH] D24426: DebugInfo: Pass non-zero
                                alignment to DIBuilder only if aligment
                                was forced</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:00 PM Paul Robinson
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                              Comment at:
                              lib/CodeGen/CGDebugInfo.cpp:3691<br>
                              @@ -3635,1 +3690,3 @@<br>
                              +  if (D->hasAttr<AlignedAttr>())<br>
                              +    AlignInBits =
                              D->getMaxAlignment();<br>
                                 StringRef DeclName, LinkageName;<br>
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                              dblaikie wrote:<br>
                              > is max alignment the right thing
                              here? Should it be min alignment?<br>
                              > (is alignment in bits the desired
                              thing across all of this too? It looked
                              like in the backend patch there was some
                              division by CHAR_BITS, etc?)<br>
                              I should think bits is the right choice
                              here; seems more the province of the
                              backend to convert it into the appropriate
                              addressable units (commonly but not
                              universally chars).<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              The alternative thinking is that we've a
                              generally sense we want to make more of
                              this type information opaque to LLVM - so
                              I'm somewhat inclined to make the frontend
                              do the work of choosing what to emit and
                              the backend just being as simple as
                              possible.<br>
                              <br>
                              Hmm, seems like the DWARF spec details I
                              can find: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.dwarfstd.org/ShowIssue.php?issue=140528.1"
                                target="_blank">http://www.dwarfstd.org/ShowIssue.php?issue=140528.1</a> don't
                              really specify what the value of
                              DW_AT_alignment is, it's sort of assumed,
                              by the looks of it? I'm assuming it's
                              bytes, the same as the byte_size
                              attribute.<br>
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