<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On May 9, 2014, at 8:09 AM, David Blaikie <<a href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Argyrios Kyrtzidis <<a href="mailto:akyrtzi@gmail.com">akyrtzi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>On May 9, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Alp Toker <<a href="mailto:alp@nuanti.com">alp@nuanti.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>On 09/05/2014 07:34, Argyrios Kyrtzidis wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hmm, there is a difference between a warning that is designed to find problems but ends up too noisy in practice and a "remark"<br></blockquote><br>... and a remark is also a noisy warning designed to find problems.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">, we should not conflate the two concepts.<br></blockquote><br>The two are the same thing.<br></blockquote><br>Let me give you a specific example:<br>We recently introduced -Wmodule-build to "make it easy to see when modules are (re)built". Do you regard this as designed to find problems ?<br><br>Now consider that people have the workflow of having -Weverything, so that when clang introduces a new warning they can see it, be aware of it, and see if it finds new problems in their code.<br>What is the value for these people to get a brand new compiler, compile their code and see "warning: building module 'Foundation' as '/path/to/Foundation.pcm'" ?<br></blockquote><br>I don't know - why did we add -Wmodule-build in the first place? What<br>action is a user expected to take when they see this information?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's my point, this is not for users to see, it belongs as a remark.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>(Whether they get treated as remarks, warnings or errors should be a question of mapping only.)<br><br>Alp.<br><br>--<br><a href="http://www.nuanti.com/">http://www.nuanti.com</a><br>the browser experts<br><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>cfe-commits mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cfe-commits@cs.uiuc.edu">cfe-commits@cs.uiuc.edu</a><br><a href="http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits">http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits</a></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>